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If you feel you should have
an opinion on something...

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I think it's very important to be able to see it
from someone else's perspective as well.

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With this subject, we really fail
to do that in the Netherlands.

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When Rutte says things like: 'I would prefer
Dutch jihadists to die over there in Syria...

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than to return...

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I mean, I suppose it wins him votes...

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but for a father in Amsterdam-North 
it's very painful to hear.

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This father actually told me:
'He's my prime minister as well.

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He's the prime minister of all citizens. He
has to do what a prime minister should do:

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bring his citizens home safely.

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I think there are not enough people...

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who understand
how painful a comment like that can be...

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for relatives.

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The same with a comment like:
'They haven't been raised right.'

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I mean, you've lost your child,
in some cases literally, to begin with...

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and to add insult to injury they tell you
you haven't raised your child properly.

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I mean, do they have
any personal experience with this?

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They are basically ruthlessly
condemning someone. It's just wrong.

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My name is Ozan, I'm 34. In 2016, I
organised three meetings about dialogue.